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The Angel of the Lord

Most theologians will tell you that the term ‘the Angel of the Lord’ is appearance of the LordJesus in the Old Testament. To be honest, I am uncomfortable with this idea and believe it to be completely wrong.

Who is he?

angelFirstly: the word angel means messenger. So, how can the messenger of the Lord – be the Lord? This really doesn’t make any sense at all.

Now, people will say: he speaks in the first person – so he must be God? However, this ignores the fact that as God’s representative and messenger- that’s perfectly normal – even to the extent of reverence.

The book of Hebrews tells us that God did speak before Jesus but, that He’s spoken to us in these last days through his son. If the Angel of the Lord was the son in pre-incarnate form – then he has spoken several times already!

Hebrews 1:1 “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;”

Acts 7

Secondly, several New Testament writers clearly show that the personage of the Angel of the Lord in the OT is not a pre-existent appearance of the Son of God: Jesus Christ. The following: is part of the martyr Stephen’s address. Note, he doesn’t suggest the Angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ to his Jewish listeners which would have actually been a powerful theological point!

Acts 7 “And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.”

Acts 7:38 “This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:”

He’s in the New Testament

Thirdly, the Angel of the Lord appears IN the New Testament. In fact, at the birth of Jesus and at the resurrection! He can hardly be both persons at the same time – even if He (Jesus) is God! Later on in Acts, the Angel of the Lord appears in order to set Peter free from prison. In addition, he strikes Herod down with worms because of blasphemy. Indeed, the Angel of the Lord is a fearsome person. He doesn’t act at all emotionally or with any mercy and grace:

2 Kings 19 “And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.”

Therefore, he seems to be very much a destroying warrior and protecting angel. That hardly seems to equate with the character of Jesus Christ who alone fully reveals God as He is the perfect image of God. An angel, although greater and power and might than human beings – could never do that. They know nothing of God’s love! Only reflecting his power and might.

In conclusion, I don’t believe Jesus Christ was ever an angel (even a mighty one). Until the incarnation of Jesus no one had seen God at any time:

John  1:18 “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”

This explains, in my view, the apparent inconsistencies in the Old Testament where several people – including Moses –  claim to have seen God. I think they were mistaken. What they saw were angels not the face of God! This could also explain the harshness of the Law of Moses which several scriptures inform us was given by angels. That’s for next post though!

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What is salvation? – Video

In this video Fran and I talk about the biblical concept of salvation:

NOTES:

Jesus is the saviour. Jesus or Joshua means saviour!

John 10 : The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. G4982

John 10:19 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, G4982 and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.

Matthew 9:21 For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. G4982

Lost or saved?

1 Corinthinas 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved G4982 it is the power of God.

For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, G4982 and in them that perish:

What does he save us from?

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Matthew 1:21

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Romans 5 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved G4982 from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved G4982 by his life.

1 Thess 5 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Matthew 27 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

How are we saved?

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; G4982 but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. G4982

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved G4982 us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. G4982

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. G4982 Acts 4

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Acts But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, G4982 even as they.

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) G4982

For by grace are ye saved G4982 through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Titus For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. G4982

1 Corinthinas 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save G4982 them that believe.

1 Cor If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; G4982 yet so as by fire.

To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved G4982 in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. G4982

1 Timothy This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save G4982 sinners; of whom I am chief.

Who will have all men to be saved, G4982 and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Hebrews 7 Wherefore he is able also to save them G4982 to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

1 Peter 1:19 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

2 Corinthians 6 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

2 Corinthians 7 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

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The gift of prophecy

In this video we delve into the gift of prophecy. Give us some feedback. Tell us what you think?

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Speaking in Tongues?

In this video we delve into the whole contentious area of speaking with other tongues or languages. Give us some feedback. Tell us what you think?

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Leadership in the church

Leadership in the church –  video summary.

Conclusion from last time: church is a place where everyone has a part to play.

Leadership in Hebrews

Hebrews 13:7 :Obey them that have the rule G2233 over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule G2233 over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:24 Salute all them that have the rule G2233 over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.

We do need leaders (plural)!

Why? To learn off someone else with more experience.

Example: learn to drive – go to a driving instructor. They lead you!

An elder is someone who is older with more experience! Its not about position but a role!

If your really a leader – who are you training?

Jesus model of discipleship

He said it was good that he left them!

As a driving instructor pupils (disciples) submit to my leadership or leading!

Peter made some big mistakes! Discipleship is PRACTICAL!

A leader (even Jesus) leads by example and experience (they have been through stuff!)

The world’s idea of leadership is to do what I say! A dictatorship!

Acts 20:28

Acts 20:28 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, G1985 to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”

How do you learn? Most meetings are very ineffective in terms of learning.

We need leaders to rise up!

A jig-saw puzzle …. your a piece part of the picture!

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Who get’s to play?

Question: Who get’s to play?

Video Summary.

The word church

Did you know that the word church is not in the original Bible. The greek work is  ecclesia (assembly)

If you want to know the true meaning of a word see how it’s been used throughout the Bible.

The problem with words is that they mean different things to different people. For some church is the building. Other’s its a particular meeting on a Sunday.

The word means to gather: political meetings. A coming together of believers.

Acts 19:32

“Some therefore cried one thing, and some another: for the assembly (church or ecclesia) was confused; and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.”

What do you do at church? What did they do in Acts and the Epsitles?

Come together!

1 Corinthians 14: Whenever you come together –   each of you. Not a few. ALL.

1 Corinthians 14:26 “How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.”

This is very much the American Supper idea in the previous post. Everyone get’s to play not a select and anointed few.

The common objection to this is that result is chaos? Paul gives guidelines: Prophecy someone else wants to say something –  shut up!  In mots churches today the only one who gets to speak is the pastor!

Just because everyone is involved doesn’t mean that everything has to be spontaneous. There is room for preparation. It’s unlikely that every one will bring potatoes.  

What we missing out? Missing out on variety!

Often today its all about the teaching gift.

Romans 12:6

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecylet us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministrylet us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that givethlet him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1 Corinthians 12:10 

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

Allot more variety than we experience!

How would God assemble the church?  – assemble a bit of furniture.

Is seeker friendly church God’s plan?

Church is not a place where you bring people to evangelise. We should be equipped to go to people.

Evangelism isn’t a gift.  An evangelist is a person.

Pastoring isn’t a gift. A pastor is a person.

Stuck on the ground

If the church was an airfield most of the planes are either stuck in the hangars or on the ground.

 

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Priesthood of all believers

Question: What is the priesthood of all believers?

1 Peter 2:4

“Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also as living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”

Revelation 5:10

“And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”

 

Summary?

As John Wimber once said: “Church should be a place where everyone gets to play!”

What is a priest?

A priest is a special person that represents the people to God and God to the people. They are a mediator.

In the OT only a certain type of person was a priest. In the New Covenant ALL believers are priests.

One mediator

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

Example: An Estate Agent is a mediator.

Therefore, as a believer you are qualified to : worship ( no worship leader necessary), celebrate communion, pray, intercede, prophecy, baptise and evangelise. 

Becoming a christian was your graduation!

Religion – clergy and laity

Religion = someone in between.The blessed virgin Mary.

A priest, a pastor, a rev. They do the work of the ministry ( the above). They are the professionals or clergy. They are anointed; the rest of the church are the laity.

Who does the work of the ministry?

Ephesians 4:11 “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”   WHY?

“For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:”

No one has all 5! 

The gift IS the person (some). The purpose is to equip.

Example : Driver Trainer

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My job is to impart my skills and knowledge. How does someone learn to drive?

Restaurant or American Supper

What I’ve noticed over the years, is that many churches have moved to a restaurant model. To be fair, that’s because the food is so bad they decided to employ experts! Therefore you get great worship, sermon and environment. However after a while, the same great food eaten every week – starts to taste bland. There is no participation you are an audience.

An American supper model however, seems closer to what the earl church practiced. Everyone contributes something. Everybody is involved! Everyone learns!

You still have leadership or those more mature and experienced. However, they don’t do everything they lead others to do what they are doing!

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