Speaking in Tongues?

In this video we delve into the whole contentious area of speaking with other tongues or languages. Give us some feedback. Tell us what you think?

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Leadership in the church

Leadership in the church –  video summary.

Conclusion from last time: church is a place where everyone has a part to play.

Leadership in Hebrews

Hebrews 13:7 :Obey them that have the rule G2233 over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule G2233 over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:24 Salute all them that have the rule G2233 over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.

We do need leaders (plural)!

Why? To learn off someone else with more experience.

Example: learn to drive – go to a driving instructor. They lead you!

An elder is someone who is older with more experience! Its not about position but a role!

If your really a leader – who are you training?

Jesus model of discipleship

He said it was good that he left them!

As a driving instructor pupils (disciples) submit to my leadership or leading!

Peter made some big mistakes! Discipleship is PRACTICAL!

A leader (even Jesus) leads by example and experience (they have been through stuff!)

The world’s idea of leadership is to do what I say! A dictatorship!

Acts 20:28

Acts 20:28 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, G1985 to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”

How do you learn? Most meetings are very ineffective in terms of learning.

We need leaders to rise up!

A jig-saw puzzle …. your a piece part of the picture!

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Who get’s to play?

Question: Who get’s to play?

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The word church

Did you know that the word church is not in the original Bible. The greek work is  ecclesia (assembly)

If you want to know the true meaning of a word see how it’s been used throughout the Bible.

The problem with words is that they mean different things to different people. For some church is the building. Other’s its a particular meeting on a Sunday.

The word means to gather: political meetings. A coming together of believers.

Acts 19:32

“Some therefore cried one thing, and some another: for the assembly (church or ecclesia) was confused; and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.”

What do you do at church? What did they do in Acts and the Epsitles?

Come together!

1 Corinthians 14: Whenever you come together –   each of you. Not a few. ALL.

1 Corinthians 14:26 “How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.”

This is very much the American Supper idea in the previous post. Everyone get’s to play not a select and anointed few.

The common objection to this is that result is chaos? Paul gives guidelines: Prophecy someone else wants to say something –  shut up!  In mots churches today the only one who gets to speak is the pastor!

Just because everyone is involved doesn’t mean that everything has to be spontaneous. There is room for preparation. It’s unlikely that every one will bring potatoes.  

What we missing out? Missing out on variety!

Often today its all about the teaching gift.

Romans 12:6

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecylet us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministrylet us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that givethlet him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1 Corinthians 12:10 

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

Allot more variety than we experience!

How would God assemble the church?  – assemble a bit of furniture.

Is seeker friendly church God’s plan?

Church is not a place where you bring people to evangelise. We should be equipped to go to people.

Evangelism isn’t a gift.  An evangelist is a person.

Pastoring isn’t a gift. A pastor is a person.

Stuck on the ground

If the church was an airfield most of the planes are either stuck in the hangars or on the ground.

 

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Priesthood of all believers

Question: What is the priesthood of all believers?

1 Peter 2:4

“Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also as living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”

Revelation 5:10

“And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”

 

Summary?

As John Wimber once said: “Church should be a place where everyone gets to play!”

What is a priest?

A priest is a special person that represents the people to God and God to the people. They are a mediator.

In the OT only a certain type of person was a priest. In the New Covenant ALL believers are priests.

One mediator

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

Example: An Estate Agent is a mediator.

Therefore, as a believer you are qualified to : worship ( no worship leader necessary), celebrate communion, pray, intercede, prophecy, baptise and evangelise. 

Becoming a christian was your graduation!

Religion – clergy and laity

Religion = someone in between.The blessed virgin Mary.

A priest, a pastor, a rev. They do the work of the ministry ( the above). They are the professionals or clergy. They are anointed; the rest of the church are the laity.

Who does the work of the ministry?

Ephesians 4:11 “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”   WHY?

“For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:”

No one has all 5! 

The gift IS the person (some). The purpose is to equip.

Example : Driver Trainer

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My job is to impart my skills and knowledge. How does someone learn to drive?

Restaurant or American Supper

What I’ve noticed over the years, is that many churches have moved to a restaurant model. To be fair, that’s because the food is so bad they decided to employ experts! Therefore you get great worship, sermon and environment. However after a while, the same great food eaten every week – starts to taste bland. There is no participation you are an audience.

An American supper model however, seems closer to what the earl church practiced. Everyone contributes something. Everybody is involved! Everyone learns!

You still have leadership or those more mature and experienced. However, they don’t do everything they lead others to do what they are doing!

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What or who is the church?

Question: What is the church?

Ephesians 2:19

Now, therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. In whom the whole building grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In whom you are also being built together for a dwelling place of God in the spirit

1 Peter 2:4

Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also as living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

 

Summary?

Its not the building?

The church is not the building. Its not the physical bricks an mortar. Believers are ‘living’ stones. Its the people of God. The household or family of God.

As a side note: there were no church building projects in the early church!

We need a ‘habitation’ mentality not a visitation one. In other words, God doesn’t visit is when we meet and then leave. He permanently indwells us individually and collectively by his Holy Spirit.

Therefore, a believer who is imprisoned for their faith in solitary confinement is just as much part of the church as any believer even though they suffer.

Definition?

Church or ‘ecclesia’ is defined as: “citizens called out from their homes to a public place”.

In the early church they didn’t define themselves as being part of a church organisation or churchdenomination. Their identity wasn’t based on a name. They were addressed, for practical reasons, only as the christians meeting at Ephesus or at a persons home.

Therefore, the Roman Catholic Church is not the church.  The Pentecostal church of the Spirit of Prophecy is not the church either. What we do is not our identity! That doesn’t make us church. No, its who we are in the spirit as members of the body of Christ. That is the only membership me need!

Yes, we meet, pray, worship and drink coffee in Costa but that is an outflow of who we are!

The church being a body is good analogy. Every cell in my body has my DNA. Each individual in the body of Christ has the DNA of Christ Jesus.

Therefore, the church isn’t what we do; its who we are as children of God! A family eats together, holidays and does all the things families do. Those things however don’t make us a family!

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Avoiding Hell

Avoiding Hell and going to Heaven?

The average Evangelical Christian thinks that avoiding Hell and going to Heaven is the Gospel or Good News. Well, I suppose avoiding being tortured for ever and ever would be something that you would want to avoid – if it were true.

Therefore, according to the traditional Evangelical, the Gospel is not really something you experience much in this life but what you experience way in the future. The bonus, is that you may even get to escape a sort of ‘hell on earth’ (the tribulation)- if of course you are fortunate enough to be raptured!

Is it Good news?

lostTherefore, is what we are proclaiming Good News to the average person around us? To a single mother depressed and struggling to look after her young kids, does the Gospel of Hell avoidance seem at all attractive? Likewise, to the young man with a drug addiction; the man who has recently been made redundant or the housewife facing cancer? No, some people are already in a kind of hell – they really don’t need to be told its going to be even worse!

If the Gospel is nothing except an escape from future punishment then it’s not good news at all by any stretch of the imagination. Good news is when you win the lottery or get a tax refund – not the avoidance of certain death in a car crash because your remembered to wear a seat belt! When Noah preached to his generation, warning them of the coming flood – that wasn’t good news! It was bad news! Yes, it was the truth but it wasn’t the Gospel!

Its about Jesus

No, the Good News is about Jesus Christ! It’s that God so loved the world that he gave his only son that we might not perish but have eternal life – not escape from hell. Without Jesus in our lives, we are indeed perishing! Some of us maybe do better in life for a while but all of us eventually die!

However, the true Gospel is a Gospel of hope because its the good news of how God intervenes and intervened in human history through the person of the son Jesus Christ. At the cross Jesus overcame death and brought the possibility of immortality and life after death through physical resurrection!

2 Timothy 1:10 “But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:”

The Gospel therefore, is great news when you realise that it proclaims an end to the the blood shed and the hatred in the world at the moment: a coming kingdom and age in which will righteousness will dwell but a kingdom that can be tasted now!

 

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Previous related post on the topic of Hell:

The first person to preach Hell?

Love never fails (Part 1)

Gods brilliant plan (Part 2)

How big are God’s plans? (Part 3)

God is a universalist (Part 4)

Jesus is God’s plan (Part 5)

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How does your patronage help?

As more patrons sign up, it will mean I can grow what I do as I will be able to dedicate more time and effort.

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